Comments on: Spimes, Motes and Data Centres http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/03/04/spimes-motes-and-data-centres/ Raising The Eight Bar Thu, 10 May 2012 17:04:13 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.5.3 By: Estetik Güzellik http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/03/04/spimes-motes-and-data-centres/comment-page-1/#comment-242842 Sun, 06 Jun 2010 12:06:55 +0000 http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/03/04/spimes-motes-and-data-centres/#comment-242842 Speaking of which, I downloaded the CAD files for the Openmoko cell phone yesterday. My experience suggests that another one of those proprietary strings is CAD file formats.

]]> By: nfg http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/03/04/spimes-motes-and-data-centres/comment-page-1/#comment-242659 Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:03:30 +0000 http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/03/04/spimes-motes-and-data-centres/#comment-242659 Thanks 🙂

]]> By: kapadokya http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/03/04/spimes-motes-and-data-centres/comment-page-1/#comment-242610 Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:38:51 +0000 http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/03/04/spimes-motes-and-data-centres/#comment-242610 Yes, online worlds need spimes, or a spime-orientated culture, in order to understand that the objects talk to us, and we need to learn to listen better. These are manufactured objects, or natural objects. And the SpimeTalk they’ll generate, as we give a voice to them we can hear, is going to be a rather high intensity communication. Orders of magnitude more intense than twitter.

What this means is that the machine to machine aspect of the communication is the only possible direct means of gathering this information, and we are in dire need of efficiently automating the pattern extraction functions to derive second order knowledge from the raw data. Only then humans are going to be able and act upon what a spimified world is going to tell.

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]]> By: yama http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/03/04/spimes-motes-and-data-centres/comment-page-1/#comment-241370 Thu, 01 Jan 2009 23:04:16 +0000 http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/03/04/spimes-motes-and-data-centres/#comment-241370 good post

]]> By: eightbar » Blog Archive » Paved paradise put up a parking lot http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/03/04/spimes-motes-and-data-centres/comment-page-1/#comment-241299 Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:06:07 +0000 http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/03/04/spimes-motes-and-data-centres/#comment-241299 […] are coming together now, a more eco minded but technology driven approach to things. Much of this has been bubbling around for ages and lots of us take it for granted people know this stuff. However, read the post and get the full […]

]]> By: csven http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/03/04/spimes-motes-and-data-centres/comment-page-1/#comment-233626 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:40:47 +0000 http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/03/04/spimes-motes-and-data-centres/#comment-233626 I used the wrong word – “relevant” – above. That should be relative:

“…sometimes that information is relative to their surroundings”

Apologies.

That said, I agree that from a systems perspective the environment is effectively inseparable from the object, but the original perspective was what I’d call in this instance an inverted systems approach in that the Object (and its efficient reclamation) was an inseparable issue in regards to the Environment. One’s a top-down approach. The other is a bottom-up.

Put another way, one is corporate and one is DIY.

Adding sensors is a difficult but relatively straight forward technical proposition (and one person I’d credit with advancing the “spime” concept long before it was coined is – last I checked – working on just such spime-like shipping containers as we speak).

Less straight forward is the willingness of companies to encode blueprints into the objects they create and allow anyone to access them; a social issue entangled in all sorts of proprietary strings. I’ve little doubt the biggest issue facing spime-enabled shipping containers is getting accurate and honest disclosures from people trying to hide something.

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Speaking of which, I downloaded the CAD files for the Openmoko cell phone yesterday. My experience suggests that another one of those proprietary strings is CAD file formats.

]]> By: epredator http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/03/04/spimes-motes-and-data-centres/comment-page-1/#comment-233613 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:23:07 +0000 http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/03/04/spimes-motes-and-data-centres/#comment-233613 @csven I may have abstracted upward a little 🙂 The motes and Spimes and the principles are veyr similar. We have a balance here of a generic spime saying generic things with emergent behaviour e.g. a spime saying I am hot may well be relevant in gathering surroundings. I still expect there to be custom sensors, as that is what we have a the moment. The key is to pull the information together.
Really I was pointing out that we need these concepts in virtual worlds as much as real life. 🙂
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]]> By: The Grid Live » Second Life News for March 5, 2008 http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/03/04/spimes-motes-and-data-centres/comment-page-1/#comment-233539 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 04:46:25 +0000 http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/03/04/spimes-motes-and-data-centres/#comment-233539 […] From: eightbar Spimes, Motes and Data Centres Quote from the site – A few of you may have noticed recent coverage around on the blogs about Michael Osias’s 3d datacentres. Ugotrade has as usual a great write up and analysis. You may have seen the work that our friend David Orban has been doing with OpenSpime. What’s that all about I here some of you ask? […]

]]> By: David Orban http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/03/04/spimes-motes-and-data-centres/comment-page-1/#comment-233453 Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:27:43 +0000 http://eightbar.co.uk/2008/03/04/spimes-motes-and-data-centres/#comment-233453 Hey Ian, thanks for your great post.

Yes, online worlds need spimes, or a spime-orientated culture, in order to understand that the objects talk to us, and we need to learn to listen better. These are manufactured objects, or natural objects. And the SpimeTalk they’ll generate, as we give a voice to them we can hear, is going to be a rather high intensity communication. Orders of magnitude more intense than twitter.

What this means is that the machine to machine aspect of the communication is the only possible direct means of gathering this information, and we are in dire need of efficiently automating the pattern extraction functions to derive second order knowledge from the raw data. Only then humans are going to be able and act upon what a spimified world is going to tell.

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